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Homemade device for producing living and dead water

 


living and dead waterThe article gives a brief description of the properties and methods of using activated water. The description of the device of two devices for its preparation is given.


Legends and tales of living water

The healing properties of living and dead water have been known for a very long time. Even in Russian folk tales, the deceased hero-hero was resurrected with the help of dead and living water. Living water is mentioned in many literary sources.

Even in the manuscripts of Ancient Russia of the XIV century. it is mentioned that Alexander the Great during his historical campaign to the ends of the world along the Traverse (Caucasus, Pamir, Tien Shan mountain ranges) discovered a spring with live water. The king ordered a jug of this water to be poured and forced his warrior to guard it: he hoped that if he died, this water would revive him. But the daughter of Alexander, Panorea, seduced the young guard, stabbed him with a knife, drank some water from the jug, and poured the rest onto herself. After that, she became immortal and invisible.

Historical information has been preserved that many Chinese emperors, Roman popes, and other rulers and powers of this world tried to find the elixir of immortality. Entire expeditions were organized to search for the elixir of immortality.

An expedition to find living water, which was learned from local residents - Native American peoples, in the XVI century. organized by the Spanish conquerors. They searched for it on the islands of the Atlantic Ocean and the Caribbean, but they managed to find only a few healing springs and discover the islands of the Antilles archipelago.

Already under Peter I in Russia, one of the tsar’s associates, Field Marshal Yakov Velimovich Bruce (1670-1735), was engaged in the search for living water - the elixir of immortality. After the death of Bruce, according to the will, his body had to be sprinkled with living water. But it turned out that when the magic bubble was opened, the servant simply poured all the water on the floor. Only a small fraction fell on Bruce's hand. Bruce's grave was opened for reburial in the twenties of the XX century. - one of his hands remained imperishable.

All these legends and fairy tales say that our ancestors knew about the existence of living and dead water. The most ordinary water is still not fully understood, modern science still does not know much about it.

living and dead waterThe physicochemical properties of water are very numerous, so it can have a wide variety of effects on the plant and physical world: in some cases, it brings vital energy to plants and organisms, and in others it takes. Under certain conditions, water can have healing properties, do not freeze at very low temperatures, and even glow in the dark.

In Central Asia, for example, it was noted that the yield of cotton, irrigated with water from an underground source, is 30% higher than when irrigated with irrigation canal. This happens because in the open air, water intensively gives off vital energy simply to the surrounding space. The reason for this is the wind, the sun and much more. Therefore, water from the mountains was delivered to the fields through underground tunnels - kyariz. Thus, some sources contain living water, while others contain dead water.

It is not difficult to answer the question about the sources of dead water. These are swamps, standing lakes and wells, that is, water in all standing bodies of water. Such water, according to ancient healers, is devoid of life-giving energy, therefore it was called “Chi” in their medical language. This water is most suitable for the preparation of healing broths and infusions. According to ancient healers, dead water leads to premature aging, deterioration of the body.

Living water is contained in mountain rivers, waterfalls, it is rain water, especially during a thunderstorm, of course, if the rain is not acidic. Also living water is water from melting glaciers.All these waters lead a person to longevity and are good for health.


Living and dead water for treatment

To get living and dead water it is not at all necessary to look for its natural sources - mountain rivers or swamps. Such water can now be successfully obtained by electrolysis of ordinary water, even at home. Often such water is called activated water.

Research on the properties of living and dead water back in the 80s of the last century was carried out by leading medical institutions of the USSR. But research in this area was carried out, like many others, in an atmosphere of secrecy and most of the results were not advertised and was not accessible to the general public. But, as the folk wisdom says, you can’t hide the sewn in the bag, so the secret reached interested people, - doctors and traditional healers found out about it.

Probably, in this regard, the work of foreign researchers helped more, because there they had similar developments conducted openly, and even in the conditions of the Iron Curtain, their results were available in the USSR. These developments were simply published in the press.

Modern science has proven that living water, also called catholyte, during electrolysis gets negative potential. From this transformation, it has very high regenerative and immunostimulating properties, which enable it to be successfully used in the treatment of many diseases. Even the Pharmacological Committee of the USSR confirmed the unique properties of living and dead water, its absolute harmlessness, both with external and internal use and the possibility of use in the treatment of many diseases.

Dead water obtained during the electrolysis is also called anolyte, because it accumulates near the positive electrode - the anode. The properties of dead water have been known for a long time, thanks to its antibacterial properties, hundreds of people managed to escape from pressure sores and rotting wounds.


Getting living and dead water

Activated water is obtained by electrolysis of ordinary tap water. From the point of view of chemistry, living water has alkaline properties that have a healing effect, and dead water has acidic properties, so it has disinfecting properties. Passing through ordinary water, an electric current changes its internal structure and contributes to the erasure of harmful environmental information.

After treatment with electricity, water is divided into two fractions that have healing properties. In the treatment of the disease, live and dead water are taken in various combinations. For different diseases, these combinations are different, well studied, there are many articles and tables on the treatment of activated water on the Internet.


The first experiments with activated water

living and dead waterThe author of the device for the preparation of living and dead water in our country is considered N.M. Kratov. The history of the device is as follows. In 1981, N.M. Kratov was cured in the hospital for prostate adenoma and kidney inflammation. After more than a month of treatment, the doctors suggested adenoma surgery. He refused such an offer, so he was simply discharged.

Just at that time, the son had a wound in his hand that did not heal for more than six months. Tests of the properties of activated water were carried out on it and exceeded all expectations: the wound healed on the second day.

Inspired by success, the author himself began to take living water half a glass a day three times before meals, and soon felt cheerful. Together with an adenoma, a swelling of the legs and radiculitis passed a week later.

To verify the effectiveness of his treatment N.M. Kratov went to the clinic, and the tests showed that he had completely left the disease. On top of that, blood pressure returned to normal.

Over time, to N.M. People began to turn to Kratov for help. During treatment with live and dead water, in just two days, a third-degree burn on a neighbor’s arm was obtained, obtained with boiling water.

For a whole six months the gums of a neighbor's boy were festering, an abscess formed in the throat, and traditional medications did not give the desired result. On the advice of the author of the device, the throat and gum were rinsed 6 times a day with dead water (disinfected), after which they were taken orally by a glass of living water. As a result, in just 3 days, a full recovery came.


Activated Water Treatment Methods

In addition to Kratov, G.D. Lysenko and many more authors. Thanks to their efforts, it became known that with the help of living and dead water, it is possible to cure almost 50 diseases, ranging from sore throat and ending with an ulcer of the twelve - duodenum and stomach. This list also includes common diseases such as flu, colds, runny nose, burns, sciatica, high blood pressure and many others. All this is quite easy to find on the Internet, the treatment methods are also indicated there.



Do-it-yourself living and dead water apparatus

Devices for the production of living and dead water are now easy to find on sale, in any case, the Internet is full of such advertising. But, if you buy such a device and look at its device, you can see that the price paid for such a simple device is quite high. It would be simpler to make it with your own hands, especially since this will require very little materials, time, and the skills of our craftsmen - do-it-yourselfers. A diagram of the device for producing activated water is shown in Figure 1.

Scheme of the device for producing live and dead water

Figure 1. Diagram of the device for producing live and dead water.

This diagram shows that the entire device consists of two metal electrodes placed on an ordinary glass jar. Electrodes with screws and nuts are mounted on the lid of the can. One of the electrodes is connected directly, it will be a cathode, and the other is connected through a diode.

With the polarity of connection indicated in the figure, the left electrode is the anode.

Dead water, anolyte, will be released on the positive electrode, so a bag of dense fabric is fixed on the anode to collect it. The fabric should be sufficiently dense, but thin, very suitable for these purposes tarpaulin from gas masks or calico. The criterion for choosing tissue can be considered the passage of air through it. For this purpose, it is enough to attach the tissue to the mouth and try to blow air through it: the tissue resistance should be quite noticeable.

The main parts of the device are electrodes, the dimensions of which are shown in Figure 2.

Figure 2. Electrodes.

The length of the electrodes in the figure is 100 mm. This is true if a half-liter can is used. In principle, the volume of the can can be increased to three liters, then you just need to extend the electrodes, but so that they do not touch the bottom of the can by at least 5 - 10 mm.

As the electrodes, sheet stainless steel with a thickness of 0.8 - 1.0 mm is used. It is better if it is a “food” stainless steel, although some authors say that they themselves even use aluminum electrodes.

The figure shows that the electrode has a U-shaped cut. Such a cut is needed only on the positive electrode - the anode so that you can hang a cloth bag on it to collect dead water. On the other electrode, such a cut will not be required.

The electrodes are attached to the jar using a conventional capron cap as shown in Figure 1. It is known that such caps do not differ in mechanical strength, so that the behavior of the electrodes is not unpredictable, they should be mounted on the cover through a sealing insulating gasket. It can be made of fiberglass, of course, without foil, textolite or any other plastic. The gasket design is shown in Figure 3.

Insulating gasket

Figure 3. Insulating gasket.

Figure 4 shows how this gasket is installed on the capron lid of the can. Shown are the holes for attaching the electrodes and the hole for the exit of gases.

device for producing live and dead water

Fig. 4.

Figure 5 shows the mounting of electrodes and gaskets to the cover.

Electrode Mount

Figure 5. Mounting the electrodes.

If you use a threaded diode, its thread will mount the positive electrode. Fundamentally, nothing prevents the use of a rectifier bridge instead of a single diode. In this case, the device’s power will simply increase 4 times and, accordingly, the cooking process will accelerate, which is important when using the device systematically.


Activated water preparation

The preparation of living water is quite simple. You just need to fill in the cloth bag with water, fix it on the positive electrode, and then insert it into the jar filled with water. The water in the jar should not reach the edges and be slightly lower than the upper edge of the cloth bag. More precisely, the level of pouring water into the jar is established experimentally.

The preparation of living water takes no more than 5 - 10 minutes. After this, it is necessary to remove the electrodes from the can and very carefully so as not to mix the fractions obtained, pour dead water from a cloth bag into a separate bowl.

This is “neat” - perhaps the most important drawback of the described construction, of course, if you do not think about the possibility of electric shock. Therefore, all the manipulations, from pouring fresh water to receiving live and dead, it is better to do by turning off the device from the power outlet.

In addition to the design already described, it is possible to recommend the design of the device without a cloth bag for manufacturing. In this case, you will need two separate containers, only without a neck, like cans, but with straight sheer edges. The design of the electrodes remains unchanged, only they will have to be installed separately for each container.

In order to ensure electrical contact between these banks, they should be connected with a cotton rope, wound in gauze. In this case, the tow should be pre-moistened with water. Such a tourniquet will connect the banks electrically and provide a path for the passage of ions between the banks. Thus, living water will accumulate in one bank, and dead water in another. Therefore, after the end of the process, it is enough to simply turn off the installation from the network and get catholyte and anolyte just from different cans, with the same capacity.

The entire structure, both this and the previous one, can be connected to the network not directly, but through a light bulb with a power of about 15 watts. These are used in refrigerators and sewing machines. In the event of a short circuit of the electrodes, it will act as a fuse, and in the case of normal operation, an indicator: at the beginning of the process, the lamp will shine brightly, closer to the end, the brightness will drop significantly, after which the lamp will completely go out. This is a signal that activated water is ready.

In the process of preparing water, scale will form on the electrodes and on the bank itself, which can be removed with a solution of citric or hydrochloric acid. After this, the jar should be thoroughly washed.

Do not pour water directly from the tap into the appliance. It is better if you let the water stand for at least 5-6 hours, so that chlorine leaves it, otherwise hydrochloric acid may form. It is very good if you filter the tap water through any household filter and boil it.

Boris Aladyshkin

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    Hello. I probably should turn to Boris Aladyshkin since his initials are under a note on living and dead water devices. I have questions about the designs. Question 1. Did you make the apparatus of the second design? (with separate containers). 2. What are the indicators in the pH of living and dead water you received? 3. How long does the activation process take and at what pH values. 4. What value of current flows during the activation process.

    Thanks. Sincerely, Alexander.

     
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    Hello, Alexander. At one time, together with our colleague, we made the device according to the first scheme.It was a long time ago where I got the idea and description, I can’t say right now, it seems, in some kind of magazine. Naturally, we had nothing to measure the pH, therefore, to evaluate the results, we used the appearance and smell of the obtained water guided by the signs given in the journal article. Processing time was selected experimentally, about 10 ... 40 minutes. The longer this time, the higher the concentration of the resulting solutions. I could not do the second construction, but I think that in our performance the experiments and results would be about the same. As for the current consumption, the use of a low-power light bulb, of the order of 20 W, will limit the current to a level of not more than 100 mA, but taking into account the resistance of the water in the cotton wiring harness is slightly lower. In this case, the lamp acts as a current stabilizer and fuse. If an increase in current is required, then the power of the restriction lamp can be increased, at least up to 40 ... 60 W. Vobschem need to experiment. Regards, Boris.

     
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    About a cloth bag! I clarify. I make it from an old fire hose (old construction without latex). I confirm the effectiveness in treating stomach ulcers (and gastritis. A purulent abscess on the sole of the leg (don’t wear shoes and tomorrow on the plane) has been cured in one evening session - wetting with dead water for 15 minutes and dressing with live water at night. That's it! Healthy in the morning! I wish you health !

     
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    The use of stainless steel for the manufacture of electrodes leads to serious poisoning. When current flows from the metal, chromium, nickel and other ions are released.

    Electrodes are made of graphite (graphite anodes for the chemical industry or graphite fiber.

     
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    Graphite? The question also requires study. During electrolysis in dissolved form, CO (carbon monoxide) can form. There may be a combination of stainless steel and graphite. One electrode is graphite, the other is stainless steel. chromium and nickel ions are needed by the body.

     
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    Graphite is thermally and chemically resistant, insoluble in water, and as for stainless steel, it is only a cathode. Otherwise, the water will be technical. Do not use graphite brushes for electric. engines !!!! Copper graphite or alum graphite or metal graphite can be made. Only pure graphite, for example electrodes (graphite non-carbon) for cutting copper and aluminum. But all at your own peril and risk, do a chemical analysis of the water in the laboratory or try for evaporation (living water), there should be no sediment. Water is not a panacea, remember this! Do not abuse. If you really want so much, you can buy an electrode separately (spare part), but it costs about 50 dollars. The device costs about $ 100. I use a graphite electrode worth about $ 8. (electrode for cutting). Already 12 years. Helps and plants grow.

     
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    They made the device, connected via a 10W lamp for 10 hours, the lamp did not go out. what's the matter?

    They made a device, the light did not go out. What's the matter?

     
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    He began to test and make devices in 1983 after an article and a diagram in an appendix to the magazine "Young Technician". He made appliances like 1 liter. water and a 5 liter canister for technical and agricultural purposes.

    It was verified that after 15-30 minutes treatment with dead water (for disinfection), and then sprouting seeds of plants in live water, the germination rate increases and germination is more friendly and faster. Later, when watering with live water, seedlings overtake the one that was watered with ordinary water, much. When diseases appeared on seedlings and midges, sprayed with dead water, everything disappeared. He set up experiments on tomatoes and peppers, as well as on indoor flowers.

    When using living and dead water for medical purposes, he was guided by extracts from the book Minejyan G.Z. - Collection of traditional medicine and alternative methods of treatment. Sore throat was treated in one day with a strip of throat with dead water, and a strip of oral cavity removed toothache.I drank live water, improving the general condition of the body and removing the symptoms of heartburn and much more.

    Try and experiment, hardly anyone will do it for us.

     
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    Stainless steel - fuck, they contain chromium and during electrolysis, along with trivalent, a very dangerous carcinogen - hexavalent Cr6 + is washed out

    Use coal - chemically neutral. Convenient carbon rods for the spectroscope, they are not guaranteed impurities.

    The rods from the pencil will also go, a bunch - a few pieces.

     
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    I MADE IN TWO CAPACITIES, WITH SILVER ELECTRODES WITH A SILVER JUMPER. The light did not go out. LIQUID IN BOTH VESSELS GOT AGGRESSIVELY BIT-ACID-TARPOUS FOR TASTE AND VERY MUDDY WITH AN ACTIVALLY DROPED SEDIMENT. VERY QUICKLY DIFFERENT, MINUTES AFTER 8-10. I AM AFRAID OF DRINKING. WITH THIS WATER WAS NOT BURNED BY ELECTROLYZIS AT ALL. ANYTHING DOING WITH SILVER ELECTRODES? WHAT IS NOT SO? ANSWER PLEASE.
    GREGORY

     
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    I have been using a home-made device for about 20 years ... instead of stainless steel I use simple tablespoons of stainless steel and that's it .... everything else is according to the scheme))) I tested the effect on my own experience (burned the face of a 9-month-old child from the use of water. Even no trace left, and boils and abscesses ... in two counts ... good luck to everyone when using even those who do not believe in the result !!!!!!!!!)

     
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    I recommend plates made only of titanium, everything else does not cure, it is verified, we have been treating people for 10 years. Call us, let’s give a try on real living and dead water, we make devices. 044-537-18-08, 067-65-65-485. We are located in Kiev, near the metro KPI.

     
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    Stainless steel can not be used as electrodes, alloying heavy metals are washed out of it. There is a very simple way. The main thing is safe. Now I am conducting tests, everything works, We take a syringe for 10 cubes, cut it along the volcanic rock, two cuts along the opposite. We take 10 tablets of activated carbon of 0.25 g each and taking out the piston we load them into the inside like batteries. We insert a contact pad with a soldered wire on top, props up the contact with a piston and the electrode is ready, while the wire is released out through the slot in the syringe. It must be lowered in water to a level at which the contact area is above the water level. Everything is simple, cheap and safe.

    Now I checked the level of PN is going to the alkaline side, as it should be. Hurray, it turned out cheap and safe, you can repeat and write reviews for the baud to wait.

     
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    Do not use metal electrodes. Water is saturated with metal ions.

    coal can, but the process takes a lot of time.

    as an anode plate, the best option is platinum, which is a catalyst and accelerates the process.

    hunting and fishing shops sell catalytic heating pads that use a platinum-coated grid (cheap), I used this grid as an anode.

    acid and alkaline water can be controlled by litmus paper.

     
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    And what brand of diode?

     
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    # 17 wrote: Alexei | [quote]

     
     

    There should be a diode with a reverse voltage of at least 400 volts, for example D226B.

     
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    Good afternoon, I am interested in the following question, I bought a device with two carbon electrodes, put it in the bag, put the M + on, turn on the device for 5 minutes (recommended in the instructions), while the bank heats up to 45-50 degrees during this time. As a result, gray water is obtained in the bag with sediment at the bottom of the black color, is it really coal, and is it harmful to the body. (can it be defended?) Electro M + after work leaves a black mark on the hand.

     
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    Judging by the reviews, sediment, turbidity, etc., only clean water should be used. That is, after processing by filters. Plain tap water is dangerous in my opinion.
    Diode 10A10 - VERY SUITABLE. The electrodes from activated carbon tablets are perhaps the most suitable and clean, and it is definitely cleaner than from any graphite, and from titanium it is problematic, since there are more impurities in different grades of titanium than in stainless steel.

     
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    I made the device according to the first scheme and it works great. Electrodes from food stainless steel (08x18n10t), I do not recommend others. Now it’s very difficult to get it. Connected via a bridge, water treatment time - 1-3 minutes. Quality was determined by the taste of "dead" water - it should be acidic and yellowish in color. Old electrodes are exhausted and I try others. And those who offer such devices for crazy money are ordinary “grabbers”. Send them by hair dryer!

     
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    we used this device in 1955 and nothing has changed since then ...
    the stainless steel of the right size can be cut off from the pan ...

     
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    I made the device according to the scheme, everything works. The question is why the water becomes cloudy and a dirty sediment appears.

     
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    But what if we take thin glass tubes, put copper electrodes in them and apply a high voltage to get a breakdown of a voltage of 300-400, and ionize water with such electrodes, and not any impurities, copper is insulated with a thin layer of glass.

     
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    I have been using the device since 80 years. I filter the water. There is sediment in both waters. (+) the anode dissolves - it is harmful to health. Cooking time 5 minutes in a liter jar.

    Is it possible to use a tantalum electrode (anode). There is a sheet of suitable size.

     
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    I have twenty years of experience in operating this device. The question of a home-made or purchased device will always remain open ... I can say that a home-made device made according to the simplest scheme produces a product no worse than an industrial-made device. Disassemble an inexpensive industrial device and make sure that there are no innovative materials and design solutions there, because the physics of the process is one. I nevertheless settled on electrodes made of food-grade stainless steel. But I do not recommend titanium (as already mentioned here) ... because it is easier to find a predictable grade of food-grade stainless steel than the desired chemical composition of a titanium sheet. The electrodes were taken from a 1.5 mm sheet. Over 20 years of operation (not intensive), the thickness decreased by 0.5 mm. None of the households who drank water was poisoned or even hinted at feeling unwell about this. Excellent results in the treatment of closed inflammatory processes. He even managed to cure the inflammatory process in the mouse (hydradenitis) without going to the doctor and surgery ...!

     
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    Gregory,
    with a silver jumper between two containers, you just got two jars with electrodes connected in series, but without a membrane separating living and dead water. The jumper must be from electrolyte !!! You can try to fill the glass U-shaped tube with water and, turning it over, connect the containers with it. It is possible to place a porous partition in the middle of this tube, for example from cotton wool.
    I advise you to weigh the silver electrodes on an analytical balance before and after electrolysis (in dry form and at room temperature). It is possible that silver simply dissolves.
    It would be interesting to try with gold electrodes. Has anyone tried it?

     
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    In the description of the device it is said that dead water accumulates at the positive electrode. It is not right. According to the laws of physics, an electron having a negative charge under the action of the positive electric potential of the anode will move to the anode and accumulate near it, therefore this water will have a pH of 5-8 units and will be living water. I have been dealing with these issues since the publication in the journal "Inventor and Rationalizer" about living and dead water.

     
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    Tell me, who leads us astray, where is the electrode?

     
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    # 30 wrote: Sasha | [quote]

     
     

    Almost everywhere, in 95% of articles - misinformation! Only Konstantin, well done, right! The truth is where the data from the journal and school chemistry are presented! In 1981 everything was right! And in 1985 Illiterate Idiots called Dead Water - Anolyte? !!! But the Alkaline hydroxyl group OH (-) is attracted to the Anode (+)! And that’s it. The people determine the dead according to sour taste. On the circuit, the diode must be turned over and then in the description all the rules! In addition: Living is Anolyte, and Dead is Catholyte! Kostya, well done - old school!

     
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    Konstantin and Sasha too simplified the processes! But this is not chemistry - this is electrochemistry !, baby. Which is much more complicated ... Therefore, everything is true: at the Anode we get oxygen gas and Hydrogen ions - or your acidic Dead Water. At the cathode, hydrogen gas and alkaline hydroxyl groups are restored - or your alkaline living water. Not so simple! Amen!

     
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    Hello! I didn’t understand - what material should the rods be from?

     
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    It is better not to use graphite - it stains water in a dark color. It is necessary to use plates and stainless steel (pishch.stal) and titanium. It is better not to strain and buy a device - activator of water.

     
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    “Black water” when using carbon electrodes results in the separation of small particles of coal (mainly on the + electrode) and if the separation membrane (bag or how you can still call this element of the device) is not very dense, then there will be a “-” on the electrode. It can be separated by simple sedimentation or filtration. No harm (did not have to swallow activated carbon?). It is assumed that the carbon (graphite) electrodes are cleaned of the flux layer on their entire surface.

     
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    I got an electric tile with touch buttons. A stainless steel saucepan was equipped with it. I tried another saucepan made of stainless steel, does not heat up, enameled warms up. I checked the pots for a magnet, it turned out that magnet was included in the kit, while others were not magnet. The tile itself does not heat up, and the built-in electric coil heats the walls of the pan, which the magnet can attract. Medical stainless steel magnet does not attract. What is food stainless steel? Recently purchased an activator from Volgograd with two electrodes made of stainless steel, the magnet does not attract. They also sell with two coal and one. While we use, living water roughly acquires the property of melt water.

     
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    # 36 wrote: costy | [quote]

     
     

    like this
    phase to the diode, the lamp as a short-circuit protection, the dielectric tap closes WITHOUT turning off the power, then off. pour two containers at once.
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    I made an apparatus with silver plates. The cathode plate gradually became thinner. It is clear that it was dissolved. Replaced by welding electrodes - the dead becomes yellow-brownish and very cloudy. In this case, the source water is clean (passed through filters) without iron and salts. I measured the voltage at the electrodes (welding) - at an incoming voltage of 220 V DC - at the coals of the electrodes - 0.8 - 1 volt, and at the metal ends - 200. It turns out that coal on the electrodes as a resistance is a dielectric? Can throw them on x and replace them with silver again? A little scary that silver is actively dissolving. There is no stainless steel. What to do? Tell me, please, who understands!
    Thanks!

     
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    The first in the former union, the study of water electrolysis was carried out in the mid-70s by V.M.Bakhir. His installations then found industrial application.

     
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    We treat people for more than 15 years with living and dead water. It helps a lot. We tried a lot of devices, settled on plates from TITAN.Water is really healing.
    We can help you purchase an apparatus or give a free consultation. Kiev.
    044-537-18-08, 067-65-65-485. Call, always happy to help.

     
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    In my LATR 10 ampere installation, then a rectifier bridge 400Volt, 10Ampere, with a margin. 3-liter pan, it contains a spoon from a food stainless steel (does not take a magnet) on the plus, the crocodile 20A keeps above the level). The bag is 1, I sewed a 5 liter from a dense canvas with a wide flat bottom, it stays firmly in the pan. It has a carbon electrode with a diameter of 15 mm, a height of 150 mm (where I picked it up, I don’t remember), it is also clamped by a “crocodile” (to disconnect it easily from the circuit, it can also be permanently connected with a copper with a wire of 2.5 mmq). I fill the tap water with 3900 mg / l total salinity. I apply voltage from scratch, at 60 Volts the current is 5 Amperes, and it rises, I lower the voltage by LATR, supporting 5A. (I installed the voltmeter and ammeter on the LATR. Although I do not need a voltmeter). After 5-10 minutes I turn off the voltage, remove the carbon electrode from the bag and pour dead water from the bag. I defend it , because it’s cloudy from black coal. Coal is not dangerous for humans, we drink charcoal pills of ryemena. In a casserole, live water, a lot of salts in the sediment, I filter after sludge. For 30 years (maybe 100 liters I made) a carbon electrode on 30% has become thinner. The treatment is real, just do not overdo it. Everyone has different water, the mode is needed o pick up. But 100mA is how many hours do I have to wait? I started with 1 A.

     
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    # 41 wrote: Alexander | [quote]

     
     

    Quote: Sasha
    Magazine "Inventor and Rationalizer"

    Respect of the wise guard.

    Quote: Sasha
    Almost everywhere, in 95% of articles - misinformation!

    Respect the old school.

     
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    # 42 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    Hi everyone, I also want to express my opinion. I have been using this installation for a long time with electrodes from a stainless steel 30 mm wide by 1.5 liter cans, but I have each electrodes lowered into my canvas bag at a time, about 150 g of live and dead water is obtained, living water is obtained high concentration and if you take it in your mouth and rinse it begins to pinch the tongue, such water is stored well, even after 3 months it continues to pinch the tongue.

     
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    # 43 wrote: yarik | [quote]

     
     

    here is such an element of natural selection.

    dumb people die from slow poisoning by heavy metals.

    the population is being cleared.

     
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    Hello, I want to speak out about the "dead" water. unique thing !!! purulent tonsillitis I cured in 2 days. made the water familiar; she cured gangrene on her leg by her mother. I advise everyone - such an installation is needed at home. father made us in 1978, used some metal rods as electrodes, then they were used in surgery. and we make water in a three-liter jar in a bag sewn from old welding pants (which do not burn).

     
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    # 46 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    Hello to all forum users! I decided to share with you my experience in manufacturing an electrolyzer. Someone will be interested in this, someone will not repeat my mistakes, and someone will have a topic for further improvement. The first version of the device was made with separate containers. I connected the usual two liter cans with a cotton-gauze jumper 1.5-2.0 cm thick. I made spoons from a non-magnetic stainless steel with electrodes and connected them to a bridge rectifier assembled on FR 607 diodes with reverse U = 1000 V and direct I = 6 A. On the rectifier input set LATR with smooth adjustment of the output U = 250-0 V. When connected to the network, the following parameters were set: U on the electrodes 200 V, current in the circuit 30 mA, the jumper resistance was 6.666 ... Com. Electrolysis lasted 3 hours. It turned out pH1 = 5 and pH2 = 8. The apparently large resistance of the jumper greatly inhibited the process. I replaced the cotton-gauze jumper with a U-shaped tube with water. When connected to the network, the current in the circuit was zero. It turned out that when a U-shaped tube is installed in cans at the top of its bend, a fluid break occurs — the electric circuit breaks. I laid a cotton thread inside the tube and filled it with water. Current in the circuit appeared, but amounted to only 1 mA.He stopped further experiments with separate banks. He assembled the device according to the classical Kratov circuit with the same bridge rectifier and power limiter based on LATR. I connected 220 V to the network, set U = 200 V on the electrodes. The current in the circuit was 3 A. As the water heated in the tank, the current increased and when I reached 5 A, I began to reduce the input voltage by the LATR, maintaining the current at 5 A (diodes in they hold me only to 6A). After 5 minutes the water temperature in the tank reached approximately 60 degrees. Above is not recommended. Turned off the device. Measured pH. It amounted to: pH1 = 1.5; pH2 = 10. The color of the water, the taste, the smells are consistent with their descriptions and recommendations. Perhaps the first stage of work has finished. I pass to the second — to test the healing properties of Living and Dead Water. If there is something interesting, I will definitely inform you. Good luck to everyone and Happy New Year !!!

     
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    # 47 wrote: Ivan | [quote]

     
     

    I was looking for the answer to the question: is food stainless steel suitable (magnet does not take) to activate water. I did not find a definite answer. I use purified, low-mineralized water, which is sold in bottling booths in the city (Chelyabinsk) 15 rubles for 5 liters. Before electrolysis, the salt content of water is 20ppm; after electrolysis, 40ppm, the upper limit for potable water is up to 170ppm. Before activating, I add 1.5 liter baking soda on the tip of the knife to speed up electrolysis. The concern is how many stainless steel ions dissolve in water? Since I didn’t find the answer, I’ll go and give my water to the chem. analysis in the laboratory after electrolysis. According to the results, unsubscribe.

     
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    # 48 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    Hello! Guys, please tell me in what proportion should the tanks for anolyte and catholyte be?

     
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    # 49 wrote: Ivan | [quote]

     
     

    In general, I took the water to a chem. laboratory after electrolysis, the appearance of 6 valence chromium in water. The result is as follows: before electrolysis, 0.0 mg / l, after 0.003 mg / l. The norm of SanPiN 2.1.4.1074-01 is not more than 0.05 mg / l.

     
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    # 50 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    He made it in a three-year-old, boils right away, after 10 minutes flakes of 2 centimeters settle in a jar, the taste, like baking soda, in dead water, the yellow color is slightly acidified.

     
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    For wounds, it is best to use this: 1 hour dead, 1 hour dry, 1 hour live, 1 hour dry and new.
    If your teeth hurt, especially under the crowns, rinse and keep in your mouth concentrated (i.e. the one in the glass of tarpaulin) dead.
    When filling, flush the canal of teeth, cheaply and angrily.

     
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    # 52 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    Answer please. An old machine made by my father was worn out. The septum broke and the water mixes. The bag was sewn from thick fabric, probably calico, it was hardly blown out (a piece was left from the Soviet times), the process proceeds normally, I check with a litmus test. Living water Ph 10? but when I pull out the pouch, water flows through the fabric. Shouldn't that be?

     
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    # 53 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    In the magazine IR in the 80s, information slipped through the quick preparation of cottage cheese using an electrolyzer. Maybe someone owns the information? Share please.

     
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    # 54 wrote: Vladimir | [quote]

     
     

    Galina Alexandrovna,
    It's okay, quickly remove so that the anolyte and catholyte do not mix.

     
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    # 55 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    I am a simple person without a higher education, especially not with chemistry and physics! Tell me whether it is possible to use graphite rods for laboratory research of metals, thickness 6 and 8 mm, length 150 mm. Please tell me how much time to include and how much they fit? Thanks in advance!

     
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    I’ll tell you my own experience of using living and dead water ...
    In September 1982, my wife underwent a caesarean section and a purulent infection was carried out during childbirth, everything was covered with mystery, the fetus had suspicion of sepsis, and the wife had a continuous abscess that could not be treated with antibiotics. time (tetracycline and ampicillin). They were safely discharged from the maternity hospital for outpatient treatment, later they tried to put his wife and child in a hospital, I had to write a written refusal ...on the recommendation of a friend who was not at all a doctor, he made the simplest apparatus for anodizing water from improvised materials: a three-liter can, a green tarpaulin mitten for collecting anodized water, two titanium electrodes 40 mm wide, 1 mm thick, a tarpaulin bag (gauntlet) long in depth and a simple single-phase Larionov diode bridge + on the electrode gloves, capron cover on a jar for attaching electrodes. The readiness of the water was determined by collecting a mouth of water from the bag, rinsing the mouth if the gums began to “tighten”, the water is ready, if we don’t continue anodizing. The result is after the diaper is soaked in the acidic (dead) water and laid all night on a purulent suture, in the morning there were only 4 fistulas, after another night - a clean pink seam ... it should be noted that the water should be very soft, like river water, otherwise you will have to install and experimentally adjust the current and voltage, or alternatively dilute with distillate. Also, this water significantly reduces toothache after rinsing and is effective for a hangover. It should also be noted that titanium corrodes, it is recommended to use electrodes from another material. The device can be upgraded - to make a simple rectangular trough by dividing it in half with a ceramic tile membrane, smearing it with sealant after first stripping the shiny enrobing layer on the sides of this trough to strengthen the stainless steel plates that will act as electrodes, in each compartment of this trough, living and dead water will form. Depending on the polarity of the electrodes.

     
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    # 57 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    Instead of a canvas glass, you can use a simple ceramic, which is full in every kitchen. In the upper part of the glass, we drill several holes in a circle with a drill for ceramic tiles, only we need to drill in a bucket of water so that the drill does not die quickly. Then, in a fabric store, we buy a piece of tarpaulin, from it we cut a tape in width that can close the holes in the glass, sew the tape with kapron thread and pull it onto the glass. You can also use plastic or metal glasses; it’s even easier to drill holes in them. And if the toad presses to spoil the kitchen utensils, then you can cut a simple plastic bottle, make a hole and put a tarp on it.

     
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    He received a severe burn of his legs, in the country house in the bath, in the morning he went to the burn center, where they wanted to hospitalize me, saying that this full treatment would remain a terrible scar. They treated the wound, smeared it with smelly ointment, and covered it up. I refused to go to bed and went home. At the house I met a neighbor who found out about my injury, she said listen to more doctors, brought me water, dead yellow and living white muddy. she said, soak the burn dead and then process it alive every two hours. I laughed, but decided to check as an experiment they said that there should be no burn in a week and no trace at all. They were surprised at the hospital for a long time, and then they said what did you want, who would treat, albeit in an effective but cheap way ..... but how many people could be saved and the skin looked normal .......

     
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    Hello. Once in his youth he made such a device. I saw an advertisement on TV and decided to search for my product, but could not find it, only the cover. Here I’m puzzling what to make electrodes of? Yes, another bag has been preserved. But the electrodes are a problem. I read all the comments with interest .. Now I won’t sleep, I’m thinking what to do? Where is the exit? I really need a device. And advertised for more than 300 euros. This is my pension and my wife. And there’s nothing to live for. That's it. Be healthy.

     
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    # 60 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    Not a single comment says that you must have an electronic probe of the poles and include in the network plus the dead water in the bag. This is very important, otherwise there will be sediment in the waters. water heals almost everything. I have been using a homemade device for more than 10 years. I can sell stainless steel plates of any length with a thickness of 0.5.

     
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    # 61 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    Hello! Is it possible to use a high voltage of a dozen or several tens of kilovolts, for example, from an imported line transformer TDKS, in which there are already diodes? After all, then immersed electrodes are not needed at all, a breakdown distance of several millimeters or a centimeter is sufficient. It may be necessary to adjust the current strength to limit the base current so that an arc does not form. The circuit is simple - one transistor and three resistors, well, and power is 10 - 25 volts from an uninterruptible battery or power supply.

    But what if for safety we use intermediate ("draft" "electrode") capacities?

    Only four cans and three wet connecting harnesses are required. Those cans in which the “rough” metal electrodes are lowered can be small, and the “rough” water needs to be poured out (thrown away), and those cans that include TWO wet tows (without glands) - theoretically and there will be "fair" M and M water. Or didn’t I take something into account? ..

     
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    It is surprising that none of the experimenters realized that the stainless steel tank itself can be used as two electrodes and one electrode is needed (now stainless steel cans or mugs of various sizes are on sale) + is connected to the bank + and the only electrode on the dielectric covers is supplied with a tarpaulin bag and the device is ready. According to this scheme, he manufactured a device for the production of hydrogen which is released along the way during the electrolysis of water. Thanks for attention! With respect to the craftsmen, I wish you good luck.

     
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    Hello! Someone boils after 10 minutes 3 l of the pot. In half an hour I don’t even think about boiling. Is there a diode bridge of 4 diodes: 3 diodes-D 242, one D-245 is it possible? Why is the water in the bank not heated?

     
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    Thank you for the valuable information checked by time and for sharing it with others. Indeed, in the years 70-80 a lot of sweats were carried out on treatment with activated water, and there was even a decision to introduce this method to schools, factories, and hospitals. But who, you, will heal per ruble if you can earn thousands on your health. Where, yours, is national wealth, which, to you, is sold? I am not a book man, but the topic of water is very interesting to me. Yes, Yuri, the water in the jar is not heated by you because there are very few salts in the water or a large distance between the electrodes. I think it’s even good, only the water will take longer to prepare.

     
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    Scientists who write in secret laboratories how to obtain and use activated water, that if the water is weakly mineralized and activated for a long time, several crystals of salt should be added. I add and when I forget from the computer that I turned on the device, then after a minute - I hear another one as the water in my bank is boiling in the kitchen.

     
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    # 66 wrote: Proxies | [quote]

     
     

    Adding HCl, that is, salt in water and electrolysis, you get a wonderful gas called chlorine. It was used in the First World War as a chemical warfare agent. Chlorine treatment is always effective and leads to the same result - death.

     
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    When he did a similar device - God sent me a thin stainless steel - a strip ...
    0.3 mm. Of which made electrodes.
    What a blessing that I did not drink this water ... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    After a couple of weeks of preparing "activated" water - the electrodes began to turn into SITO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    The stainless steel was dissolved _____ !!!!!!!!!
    If you want normal water - buy a factory-made activator, for example AP-1 ....
    It's not advertising, it's just the results of getting water .... there is also a stainless steel without any alloys (for living) water and for dead - titanium electrodes.!

     
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    # 68 wrote: a guest | [quote]

     
     

    Maybe I’ll ask a stupid question now, but why do I need a diode here? Is it impossible to connect without it?

     
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    # 69 wrote: samix | [quote]

     
     

    Gregory,
    The jumper must necessarily be from a liquid, because here we are dealing not with electrons but with ions, and they can exist only in a liquid medium, where they arise and move. In particular, we break salt molecules, mainly NaCl salt, into two types of ions by electrified water molecules. These are the positive ion-sodium ion-cation (with the missing electron on the 3s orbitals) and the negative ion-chlorine ion (with an excess of one electron). It is these ions that will move between the electrodes under the influence of an electric field. When sodium ions approach the + cathode, it receives its missing electrons, and when chlorine is reached, the anode gives up its own.

    Proxies
    Poison in small doses is a medicine, medicine in large doses is poison. Guess who said it.
    If the water is distilled or slightly mineralized, then a small whisper of salt must be added to it.

     
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    # 70 wrote: Paul | [quote]

     
     

    Gentlemen, 1. Use carbon electrodes, although this is less affordable: Though do not get poisoned, having eaten all kinds of iron rubbish under the guise of a stainless steel.

    2. Do not believe the purchased devices: the seller doesn’t fight for your health, but for cost reduction and profit (hi to the Kievans), and I don’t think it’s a very big secret how to buy a certificate of conformity in Radyansky country. For example, the men had a batch of illiquid titanium lying around, if a batch of uranium was lying around, then they would have certified it: do not forget about 04/26/1986

    3. Do not drive currents to amperes, be patient and do not be greedy. The greater the current, the more intensively the electrode is destroyed

    4. Even melt water may contain a complete menu from Dmitry Ivanovich. Sometimes it’s better to think where to get the water: in St. Petersburg, for example, from the water supply system, “liquid nails” just flow, in Odessa the water is rich in hydrogen sulfide. Consider: with what minerals your region is rich. PS ... and quit smoking: you breathe much more often than you drink.

     
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    # 71 wrote: Evgeny | [quote]

     
     

    I put a bridge of four D215A diodes, got a short circuit, repeated, having tried the bridge connections, the result is the same, please answer, what is my mistake? Thanks in advance.

     
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    # 72 wrote: Yuri | [quote]

     
     

    I use graphite electrodes, and so that its destruction does not clog the water, I wrap the electrode in the bag with a silk cloth and sew it up. The problem is resolved. Dead water is clean.

     
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    # 73 wrote: coil P | [quote]

     
     

    So the cathode or anode?

     
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    # 74 wrote: Inocentius. | [quote]

     
     

    # 62 Luke. Thank you colleague! Your comments encouraged me, having previously applied the upper part of a 1.5-liter thermos flask Ф100mm for the first course. Omitted TWO !! positive electrode made of stainless steel in a canvas bag in the thermos body, and minus to the body, received after 8 minutes. activation product without details. The device is powered from a 12V DC rectifier on diodes D242b of the bridge circuit.

     
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    # 75 wrote: Alexander | [quote]

     
     

    Proxies,
    HCl is an acid. NaCl salt. And getting chlorine out of it is quite problematic. Do not scare people.

     
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    # 76 wrote: Oleg | [quote]

     
     

    Vladimir, I tried activated carbon tablets as electrodes, but it turns out that the resistance of the column of 10 of these tablets is 1800 Ohms and if you make two electrodes of them, the resistance will be about 3600 Ohms, which at a voltage of 220 V will provide a current of only 0.06 And that is clearly not enough!
    Share the results of your experiments.

     
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    # 77 wrote: Sergey-Yurievich Dombrovsky | [quote]

     
     

    Well firstly .... I fully support this business! BUT .... the use of living water should be strictly controlled in relation to PH and ORP. as an electronics engineer I became interested in the cooking process. I even dismantled aqualife for 21000r, measured all the modes and logic of the processor and revealed the disadvantages of this device: Uncontrolled process of water preparation by PH.Namely, when refueling the device with water, a starting measurement of the water resistance (level of mineralization) takes place, after which the electrolysis itself begins at a preset time (when we set the PH). Understanding this issue, I found that for the preparation of water with the desired PH, we need to know the starting PH. After that, during hydrolysis, the separation of products directly depends on the volume and on el. work (power consumed in VT / hour). Power is a little more difficult to measure than measuring the change in water temperature in the process. Therefore, by measuring the temperature increase, we can accurately say how many calories (hence BT \ hour) spent on electrolysis. I plan to write a program for the microcontroller in the control unit of the water ionization machine (including flowing ones). If I aroused interest with my comment ... Sergey (58 years).

     
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    # 78 wrote: Novel | [quote]

     
     

    Has anyone tried platinum electrodes?

     
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    # 79 wrote: Levan | [quote]

     
     

    As far as I remember from childhood, a positive potential is connected to the anode of the radio tubes, for example, and in the description (at the beginning) they messed up something and in one case the electrode connected through the diode was called the cathode, and then the anode ... what about the whole description? Is everything right?

     
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    # 80 wrote: Andrew | [quote]

     
     

    ali,
    To comment 37, Gregory, you write: "It scares a little that silver is actively dissolving." For example, in the device Willow - 2 Silver, the preparation time for drinking silver water of the recommended concentration (0.04 Mg / L) is only 10 seconds and the power consumption for preparing silver water is no more than 3 W! You probably connect all 220 watts?

     
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    # 81 wrote: VICTOR | [quote]

     
     

    It is the yellow color that indicates the dissolution of the positive electrode !!!!!!!!!
    Dead water (at the anode) should be light which was flooded and without sediment, let it live with sediment, it should be allowed to stand for 4-8 hours or let through a filter.
    Titanium needs to be especially clean, otherwise there will also be sediment, and preferably a platinum coating.
    If graphite is used as an anode, then it is also necessary to filter.

     
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    # 82 wrote: Bella | [quote]

     
     

    Please tell me how to fit the bottom to the tank for dead water from a fire hose?

     
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    # 83 wrote: Victor | [quote]

     
     

    Tell me, does voltage play a role or is it easier - 220 volts? Maybe 24 or 10,000 volts will give a better effect?

     
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    # 84 wrote: Vlad | [quote]

     
     

    An important role in the preparation of any ionized water is played by a stable mains voltage, the composition of the electrolyte, i.e. water, the area of ​​the electrode in water, the distance between the electrodes, and the material from which the electrodes are made somehow influences.